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Sikhism & Forced Marriage

I am always amazed at the ease Sikhs can manipulate Western societies. The corporate security of AT&T in Columbus OH USA has allowed a Sikh to carry and wear his Kirpan at work. This person sought help from the Sikh Coalition.
This Sikh is on a special work permit for employment in America when he showed up with the weapon. Note: There was no mention of his religion before he left India. When the Company became aware of the weapon he was given the word, off you go back to India if you insist on coming to the job armed. While in the States he has rights that no native born would have.
It can only be a matter of time that total Sikhism is the rule of law. Turban,Kirpan, and eventually "Forced Marriage"
In the UK there is "The Karma Nirvana Refuge" see the video Once again we are faced with a clash of culture. Can we expect Sikhs to live by the teachings of the Guru Nanak. Then why are we in the West putting up with this attack on our own values and allowing this alien culture to dictate the way we should live?

Poster Boy

Daniel Sutherland, Officer for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties at the Department of Homeland Security accepted a thank you recently from SALDEF which is Sikh American Legal Defense and Education Fund. Mr Sutherland helped to create a poster for Sikhism based on Title 18 U.S.C. Section 930

(2) The term ''dangerous weapon'' means a weapon, device, instrument, material, or substance, animate or inanimate, that is used for, or is readily capable of, causing death or serious bodily injury, except that such term does not include a pocket knife with a blade of less than 2 1/2 inches in length.

This poster shows a display of Sikh weapons and basically sets aside this law and advises airport security to back off these warrior Saints. So now we may expect to see Turban covered Singhs with swords in flight.

More Sikhi news

Now all Sikh females are called Kaur and males Singh. Then Turban is mandatory or so they tell us. However we have seen many photos of both sexes without the head gear.
Here are a few pro and con. The point being these people are not consistence and will only pull the Turban out when it suits them to change our way of life.
This person is the daughter of India's Prime Minister. Interestingly she is with the famous ACLU that has won a number of court cases for the Sikhs in America. I guess the Punjab has no problems for her to solve.
This Singh featured in the article instead of being admired for his accomplishments is slammed.Read the comments by his fellow Saints. The original story had his photo without a Turban.
This Kaur with a Turban shows how it should be done. There again should we be fooled all of the time?

New Delhi

Video news broadcast.(click)
No Turbans on these fellows. These Sikh police officers murdered some people. No Turbans allowed in jail in Indian. However Sikhs demand countries in the West must honor the rights of the Saints and claim it to be their religious freedom.

Germany

2004 Turban ban in effect. (Click for details)

Sikh population 5,000

France

In 2004 a law was passed banning the wearing of religious objects in schools, and you know straight away the Sikhs started to bitch. They put videos on the Web with threats of filing legal challenges with the European Court of Human Rights and also the United Nations Human Rights Committee, challenging the French law banning the Turban for identity photographs.

One Singh is a student who is staying out of school. The other is a Singh refugee that was allowed a 10-year temporary permit to enjoy French life. Well his stay expired two years back and since that time he has been driving around without a driver's licence. that would also mean no insurance coverage. Yes, he has been stopped twice and advised to take off the turban so he can obtain the proper ID. However, he will not obey French law and states " I would rather lose my head."

Monsieur Guillotin,
inventor of the Guillotine

Both of these Singhs have the full backing of the "United Sikhs".
The lower courts have ruled against each of them. Next it will be heard in the upper court.
Then on to the human rights groups mentioned.

We in Ireland need to heed these threats from Sikhism and make a way for them to cut their own heads off which is their right if they refuse to obey. I would think they should either fit in or leave well enough alone, or just go away.

Sikh population 5,000-7,000

Denmark

Thirty-one-year-old Ripudaman Singh was found guilty in the high court after the lower courts had held him guilty of violating the country's weapon law and ordered confiscation of the "knife".
The Sikhs' mini-parliament in Denmark came to his legal assistance and the SGPC (the apex body of the worldwide Sikhs) appointed Ripudaman "Brand Ambassador of Sikhs".

New Zealand

Sikhism in New Zealand ?
Here we go again with the race card.
Check out the comments.
New Zealanders with common sense. It's refreshing: There are some of those Sikhs in South Auckland that prance around Otara markets with swords swinging from their hips. Usually this would be illegal but they wear red turbans to signify the blood of their enemies so I guess it is alright for them to carry blades.

Sikh population 9,507

Australia

Sikhism down under.


Sikh population 50,000

Appeasement

So the American Transportation Security Administration (TSA) caved in somewhat to Sikhism and watered down their initial stand on head gear ie Turbans going through the check points at the airports. Sikhs views this as a victory. Now when it comes to the Kirpan (Sword/Dagger/Knife) which we know Singhs have to wear these at all times. This will most likely be a small hurdle for the Coalition and their supporters to kick over. I read on another blog that quite soon there will be over 60,000 Sikhs gathering in Yuba California. Arriving from Canada and other places. How is the customs anywhere going to search this army?

WHICH BRINGS US TO OURSELVES:
When planes or boats arrive in Ireland with these weapon bearing militants are we geared to strip the Kirpans from them. Here is the stance in the USA. Basically out of sight out of mind. Canada might have the same policy?
We do know that Sikhs come and go to Ireland from the UK and no doubt from the Punjab.
Are the weapons confiscated at the port of entry? If not are these warriors allowed to freely walk our streets armed. Then will our Government take action and prevent this violation of our law. Think about this. In England there are 300,000 Sikhs . Should any decide to arrive by Ferry Boat are they allow on boarding to strap the Kirpan on. When does the Boat cross into Irish waters. Are they obliged to remove the Kirpan. Whose responsibliity is it to make that happen?

Scotland

A senior police officer says he fears for his son's safety because of the problem of knife-carrying in Scotland.( Audio News).
Nth Ireland Tough measures to reduce knife crime, under a proposed new law.
Criminal Justice Minister Paul Goggins said the powers "cover any implement that has a blade or point or that may be deemed as an offensive weapon". He said public protection was the government's top priority.
Also items such as Samurai swords , added to the list of offensive weapons. The legislative proposals being announced on Thursday would mean a maximum four-year sentence for the following offences:

Having a knife in a public place or on school premises;

• Possession of an offensive weapon;
• Selling a knife to a person under the age of 18;
• Manufacture or sale of certain knives (flick or gravity knives);
• Unlawful marketing and publications connected with the marketing of knives;
• Manufacture or sale of a flick knife or gravity knife;
• Sale or possession of a crossbow to someone under the age of 18.

And in England and Wales. Thats the whole of the United Kingdom. No doubt we should all applaud this move. On the surface it would appear to cover the entire population with one exception. Now who could that be? Why anyone named Singh (Saint) otherwise know as a Sikh a member of Khalsa which is The "Akal Purakh de fauj" (The Army of God. ) Thanks to Eire's Green Party Government member
Ciaran Cuffee, ciaran.cuffe@oireachtas.ie TD for lumping us in as British and supporting Sikhism in Ireland and sending this English PARLIAMENT LAW STATUTE FOR US TO ABIDE UNDER

In the United Kingdom it is legal under the Criminal Justice Act 1988 (section 139) and Offensive Weapons Act 1996 (section 3 and 4) for a Sikh to carry a kirpan with a blade for religious reasons (other reasons allowed by the Act are cultural or work related reasons). The Criminal Justice Act 1988 safeguards the rights of the Sikhs to carry the Kirpan as it is deemed a necessary part of their religion. You might be interested in more information about Sikhs in Ireland on http://www.irishsikhcouncil.com/
Sikh population: 336,179

To Serve and Protect

At least that is not the motto by the Gar (Sorry thats a typo) in the Punjab Sikh Singh officers of the law having killed a civil rights Singh had a more just sentence meted out in a revised court appearance by a judge Singh. My My it does get confusing so many Saints (Singhs) having a go.
What I find more than interesting about this case. The famous Sikh Coalition and other Sikhism supports not anywhere in sight. Had this been in the West we could expect outrage and campaigns for better Jail conditions. As we have seen in a previous post the Punjab does not allow Turbans as head gear for convicts. Strange don't you think. Yet in the West this same policy will get them riled up. Then why not enforce the culture norms the Sikhs tout as their way of life . Rather than give in to their every whim?
Then we read about Gurjant Singh, the cop who set himself and four members of his family on fire on September 29. I have noticed that these Saints like to fire up for attention grabbing headlines.
Sikhs in the Garda I don't think so!

Sikh population 11,000,000 minus a few.

Kirpans/Daggers/Swords/Knifes/Eire/Ireland/Dublin

Now we have already seen that the Gurus House in Dublin was used by Vagrants
Each and every one armed with Kirpan (sword) in violation of Irish Law.
Provided the article is correct these 50 Saints criminals are still in Ireland armed
However the population Of Sikhs is around 1,200 How many are adults is anyones guess. Sikh children are instructed by the elders to have a blade on their person. Some countries have been brow beaten and are allowing school children to have knives in the classroom.

18.—Section 4 of the Vagrancy Act, 1824 (as extended to Ireland by section 15 of the Prevention of Crimes Act, 1871), is hereby amended by the deletion of "or being armed with any gun, pistol, hanger, cutlass, bludgeon, or other offensive weapon," and "and every such gun, pistol, hanger, cutlass, bludgeon, or other offensive weapon,". Under the Offensive Weapons Act Part 111 9. Possession of Knives There is no lawful reason for a Sikh whether he/she is native to Ireland, a naturalized citizen,a ECC member, a visitor,tourist, a member of the London Sikh MET Police force and a foreign Sikh agitator to be in Ireland wearing or bearing arms such as the Kirpan (knife) The common excuse of Sikhism is that this is required by their religion and that this blade is never to be used by them unless they have a need. In other postings on this blog I have given references of the senseless violence Kirpan wielding Sikh Saints in The Army of god will take advantage of this right in Western countries. So join with me and call on the Irish Government to protect us from Sikhism.
Brian Lenihan Law info@justice.ie
Brendan Smith law minister_smith@health.gov.ie
Tom Kit dept of Defence minister.kitt@taoiseach.gov.ie
Wille O Dea Defence minister@defence.irlgov.ie
Dr Jimmy Devins Law minister_devins@health.irlgov.ie
Seán Power Law minstate@justice.ie
Conor Lenihan Law clenihan@pobail.ie
Commissioner of An Garda Siochana srmstaff@garda.ie

Green Party law Spokesperson who supports Sikhism in Ireland ciaran.cuffe@oireachtas.ie
and quoted British Law instead of the above Irish Law.
In the United Kingdom it is legal under the Criminal Justice Act 1988 (section 139) and Offensive Weapons Act 1996 (section 3 and 4) for a Sikh to carry a kirpan with a blade for religious reasons (other reasons allowed by the Act are cultural or work related reasons). The Criminal Justice Act 1988 safeguards the rights of the Sikhs to carry the Kirpan as it is deemed a necessary part of their religion. You might be interested in more information about Sikhs in Ireland on http://www.irishsikhcouncil.com/
Sikh population: 1,200

Difficult Questions

When this Sikh Turban nonsense was spread worldwide by Sikhi out of Dublin I contacted Ciarán Cuffe TD who happens to be the Green Party Spokesperson for Justice, Equality & Law Reform,Foreign Affairs and Transport for our government Dáil Éireann on Kildare Street Dublin 2. You see he went public supporting Sikhism. This is a trend I've seen over and over with politicians in Western countries. In the USA the TSA has been undermined mostly by the Democrats. Sikhs want to board planes with Turbans wrapped tightly.Also they want a no touch me policy. TSA on the other hand require a search. So my difficult hard to answer question on the dagger/sword issue for our elected TD Ciarán reaped this reply.

In the United Kingdom it is legal under the Criminal Justice Act 1988 (section 139) and Offensive Weapons Act 1996 (section 3 and 4) for a Sikh to carry a kirpan with a blade for religious reasons (other reasons allowed by the Act are cultural or work related reasons). The Criminal Justice Act 1988 safeguards the rights of the Sikhs to carry the Kirpan as it is deemed a necessary part of their religion.
You might be interested in more information about Sikhs in Ireland on http://www.irishsikhcouncil.com/

Then I pointed out that I would like him to quote Irish law as we were not in the United Kingdom, and would he have regrets should a Citizen or a Sikh or Tourist be murdered with one of these weapons. Would he want that on his conscience. Needless to say I am still waiting to hear back.
Then I contacted An Garda Síochána research unit gru@iol.ie and never heard back.
Then I contacted the Office of the Attorney General. Who replied that they don't give legal advice
Then I contacted Dr.Daruis Whelan Irish Law. Never got a reply.

Makes me wonder if a citizen has to invoke the freedom of information act on everything that has a sticky answer to a very simple question?

Sikh population 1,200

Saints.

Historically Saints have been jailed for teaching truth.
Sikh Singhs (Saints) get hauled into court world wide and do jail time, but for what.
Not saying that Turbans won't come in handy from time to time. The idea is to lay a guilt trip on the host nation, and Sue for cash. I mean freedom or whatever.

Sikh sues in US jail turban row Click link (1)
Seven escape in turban jailbreak Click link (2)
Satnam Singh's first name means truth, but the theme of his criminal history is quite the opposite.
An illegal immigrant, he was accused in 2003 of using another man's name to buy an $80,000 townhouse in Port St. Lucie in 2000. He also acted as an agent from an organization called the Catholic Helping Hands Trust, which was not in fact affiliated with the Catholic Church and whose trustee was a tattoo artist from Rosslyn, Va.
When Stuart police stopped Singh in 2001, he carried a black shaving bag with 100 pieces of identification that were not his own, including birth certificates, death certificates, passports, driver licenses, military IDs and one ID belonging to a congressional staffer.
Satnam Singh had been visiting a Stuart nightclub called Silhouettes, drinking and spending heavily.
Click link (3)
Click link (4) Jail Capers
Click link (5) How are Turbans handled in Punjab jails? Why are we stupid in the west.

Going back to the well

How many times can you milk it?
Todays paper Click here.
Until you run out of Turbans to to carry it away.
£350,000 Year 2002
£151,688 Year 2000

£100,000 for "a serious loss of reputation for someone with standing in the community"

£ 25,000 for the "high handed" way Mr Virdi was dealt with

£ 24,688 for interest

£ 2,000 for lost overtime earnings

Punjab

Punjab is in India and borders Pakistan. We need to send our Green Party TD Ciaran Cuffee to the region for 10 years. At least he might do someone some good over there. You see the poor buggers are hurting themselves as they haven't got a clue when it comes to farming and nourishing Mother Earth. Children about 10 years old are going blind and others are prematurely gray. These Sikh children and adults are rife with cancer classified as "uncommon." The food source is also being shipped to other parts of the continent. This means eventually everyone there may get poisoned. Sure they have a religious system --Sikhism or Sikhi--that preaches reincarnation and this can be viewed as a god-send by them which allows even the poorest farmer or jatt sikhs to evolve into the next life. Meanwhile, American Baptists are busy helping out with medical aid and agricultural information to a very illiterate people.

Now how do the laid back, got-it-made-in-the-shade Western Sikhs view these Christians? Here is an example:

(1) Throw these so called missionaries out of the Punjab.
(2) Why are these people even allowed into the state or India in the first place?
(3) These devious people make me sick.
(4) Guru Gobind Singh Ji said try to resolve matter amicable if all doors are closed than picking sword is your right.
(5) Who else wants some? I'm sharpening my Kirpan.(Sword)
(6) Why isn't our government banning these idiots from entering our country, where is our President, where is our Prime Minister for God's sakes? Our religions need to be protected from these evil foreigners and their evil, devilish and scheming teachings.

While these laid back Sikhs stuff themselves here in the West the folks back in the Punjab are rotting away.
Thats how much they care for there own kit and kin. They would rather stop the evil foreigners from doing what their founder Guru Nanak instructed. "Remember God, Work Hard and Help Others."

Yes the bullying sikhs (read their comments--YOU WILL BE SHOCKED AT THEIR INTOLERANCE!) that we are now faced to confront ever day over their beliefs--who like to hold us up for ridicule and bitch that we are intolerant, racist, and hurry to bring human rights lawsuits in our courts--would sling us out of the Punjab or have their government prevent us from assisting those in need, and run us through with a sword. Makes you wonder that the joke is on us?
Sikh population 11,000,000

India

Myth and Folklore: A Hindu fellow woke up and said "There is no Muslim or Hindu." How did this affect us in the West or why should we give a fiddler's flute? Does it have something to do with the water? After all, the fellow went missing for around 3 days by a river. Born 1469 AD in Pakistan with almost a Christ-like entry into the world, not a virgin birth. At age 30 he went middle-aged mad--or so it would seem.

One of his teachings goes like this:
"From woman, man is born; within woman, man is conceived. To woman he is engaged and married. Woman becomes his friend. Through woman, the future generations come. When his woman dies, he seeks another woman; to woman he is bound. So why call her bad? From her, kings are born. From woman, woman is born, without woman, there would be no one at all. "

What would the founder of Sikhism say today should he read an article in the Irish Independent by Jeremy Page Monday July 30,2007,which points out once again the double speak of the Sikh community in the West. On one side of their mouth they tell us they never harm women or children.Then we read articles giving us the facts such as the "LEADERS of Delhi's Sikh community have called for an end to lavish weddings The result being daughters are seen as a financial burden and many Indians kill newborn girls and abort female babies" He also had a Rodney King-esque teaching of "Why can't we all just get along?" As you can see he was quite a dreamer.

Why so: The three religions in the region have fought with each other since. Sikhs are quick to point out the Muslims are the bad Turban people. Yet they align themselves with these bad people when its convenient as we see in case after case in America and Canada. Sikh on Sikh violence:

Punjab Online discussion forum: Turban Issue

Burn Baby Burn. Cricket player Yuvraj Singh got in big big dangerous trouble for taking the option of making some money by removing the Turban and letting his hair down for a Whiskey Advertisement. His Ma in India was ill and when our hero went to visit the Sikh mob was there. So as they were outraged and for lack of something better to do with their time they burned Yuvraj in effigy outside the sick mothers home. What could Mr Y.Singh do to please his cult. Obey the order of the head man and give up this earthly pursuit,repent and behave.

Sikh population 19,215,730